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您也可以在INSTAGRAM上找到COMTOISE时钟博物馆。@comtoise.museum
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Comtoise - Morbier 鐘錶從 18 世紀初到 20 世紀初的歷史，有超過 600 塊鐘錶可以說明，並在 Bernd Deckert 的書籍中有所描述。
Comtoise - Morbier 鐘的起源可以從已知最古老的 Haute-Saône Comtoise - Morbier 鐘和混合 Comtoise - Morbier 鐘得到證明，這些鐘都在 Comtoise - Morbier 鐘博物館展出。Mayets 家族是重要的塔鐘製造商，也是上汝拉 Comtoise - Morbier 鐘的重要製造商，但他們並非 Comtoise - Morbier 鐘的發明者。已知（迄今為止）最古老的 Haut-Jura Comtoise-Morbier 鐘可追蹤到 1709 年。
已知最大且可公開參觀的 Comtoise-Morbier 鐘收藏，就在杜塞爾多夫的 Comtoise-Morbier 鐘博物館內展出。
 
COMTOISE CLOCK ONLINE MUSEUM 由 Angelika and Thomas Deckert GbR.  古董钟/钟表制造厂/Comtoise Clock Museum 位于德国杜塞尔多夫，于 2010 年 8 月 25 日开馆。游客注册时间为 2011 年 4 月 23 日。
 
每位 Comtoise 的朋友都可以免费访问 Comtoise 时钟在线博物馆。
无需注册，无需密码，无需任何费用。
在下面的文件夹中，您可以找到数百件康托瓦兹古董钟。使用右上方的搜索功能*搜索图库*，可以更快地找到您感兴趣的内容。祝您在进入 Comtoise 钟表世界的过程中愉快。
 
杜塞尔多夫 Comtoise 钟表博物馆成立于 2001 年，最初位于 Suitbertusstr. 151 号，位于杜塞尔多夫 D 区 - 40223。2015年，康托瓦兹钟表博物馆的钟表藏品迁至位于杜塞尔多夫市的Bonifatiusstr. 59/61 D - 40547 Duesseldorf - Alt Loerick。现在，在200多平方米的展览空间里，展出了600多件康托瓦兹钟表，展示了这些著名的法国钟表从1700年左右到第一次世界大战初期停产前的发展历程。
 
如果您想了解有关该博物馆的更多信息，请点击此处： www.comtoise.com
 
Comtoise 时钟在线博物馆。为什么？
Comtoise 时钟的种类繁多，遗憾的是永远不可能有一个收藏馆包含所有 Comtoise 时钟的型号。Comtoise 时钟在线博物馆不仅展示了您在 Comtoise 时钟博物馆中可以看到和触摸到的所有 Comtoise 时钟，而且还展示了一些其他收藏家的非同寻常的钟表。因此，如果您拥有应该在博物馆中找到的罕见 Comtoise 时钟，请不要犹豫，与 Comtoise 时钟博物馆联系。
我们对 Comtoise 时钟历史的了解在不断增加，因此 Comtoise 时钟在线博物馆将始终是最新的，因为与印刷文献不同，如有必要，可以更正日期和文字，添加或删除照片。
 
COMTOISE GUESTBOOK 期待您的宝贵意见和建设性批评。请使用以下链接：www.comtoise.info
 
在 COMTOISE CLOCK ONLINE MUSEUM 在线博物馆的电子商店中，出售带有鉴定证书的各种古董钟表和零配件。请使用以下链接：www.comtoise.biz
电子商店于 2011 年 8 月 25 日开通，并在不断扩大。
 
Comtoise Clock Online Museum 的网站 www.morbier-clocks.de 与以下网站链接： www.comtoise.com + www.comtoise.de + www.comtoise.info + www.comtoise.biz + www.descartes-clocks .de + www.comtoise.shop 所有这些网站均为 Angelika 和 Thomas Deckert GbR 的财产。在杜塞尔多夫。
 
版本说明 + 一般条款和条件 (GTC) 可在 www.comtoise.com + www.comtoise.info 网站上查看。
使用所有 A.u.T. 网站上的图片和文字。未经作者或经营者同意，使用 A.u.T. Deckert GbR. 这也适用于复制、翻译、缩微拍摄和电子媒体处理。任何商业用途均需得到作者或经营者的书面许可。
Comtoise 时钟在线博物馆尚未完成。我们还将提供更多其他语言的时钟和说明。
 
请尽快再次访问我们。
 
附：如果您希望定期收到*COMTOISE NEWSLETTER*，请将您的请求通过电子邮件发送至：deckert (at) comtoise.de]]></description>
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							<description><![CDATA[<a title="5. Gehwerk seitl. in HAUTE-SAÔNE COMTOISE MOVEMENT" href="https://morbier-clocks.de/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/5.-Gehwerk-seitl..jpg.php"><img src="https://morbier-clocks.de/cache/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/5.-Gehwerk-seitl._240_thumb.jpg?cached=1781697541" alt="5. Gehwerk seitl." /></a><p>Se consideriamo l'orologio Haut-Jura Comtoise come il prodotto di un processo di sviluppo, &egrave; chiaro che ci devono essere state delle tappe intermedie nel percorso dall'inizio al prodotto, cio&egrave; dall'orologio a lanterna all'orologio Comtoise tra il 1657/58 e il 1700/1710, poich&eacute; nessuno probabilmente accetter&agrave; che l'orologio Haut-Jura Comtoise con il suo scappamento a verga e il pendolo lungo sia stato creato su un tavolo da disegno o il risultato di una conferenza della famiglia Mayet. La comtoise dell'Haute-Jura non &egrave; in alcun modo un'evoluzione degli orologi da torre, siano essi orologi da torre Mayet o orologi da torre del XV, XVI o XVII secolo di altri orologiai.&nbsp;L'orologio comtoise dell'Haut-Sa&ocirc;ne &egrave; un'evoluzione dell'orologio a lanterna, che alla fine del XVII secolo aveva gi&agrave; adottato nuove caratteristiche provenienti dall'Inghilterra, come il pendolo, la marcia ad ancora e la suoneria a rastrello.L'orologio Haut-Jura Comtoise &egrave; un'evoluzione dell'orologio Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise, apparso intorno al 1710 con i primi orologi specifici di questa regione. Il pi&ugrave; antico orologio Haut-Jura Comtoise datato e firmato risale al 1709. Vi presento un orologio le cui caratteristiche esterne, come il quadrante e il frontone in peltro, la lancetta unica, la staffa di sospensione e il distanziatore inferiore, la campana al centro nella parte superiore del movimento e in una gabbia del movimento forgiata con porte laterali del movimento, indicano immediatamente un movimento Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise. Tuttavia, non c'&egrave; una forca per sospendere il pendolo, e quindi nemmeno un'asta del pendolo dietro il movimento. Non c'&egrave; nemmeno una fessura nella parte posteriore della gabbia del movimento attraverso la quale il pendolo potrebbe oscillare. Questo movimento non ha un pendolo, come &egrave; subito evidente. Al posto del pendolo, questo movimento ha una ruota foliot.&nbsp;Nessuno si aspetterebbe di trovare, a distanza di quasi 350 anni, un orologio ancora nelle sue condizioni originali dell'anno +- 1670. Naturalmente, questo movimento ha subito riparazioni e/o modifiche, ma la sostanza di base mostra un movimento ibrido con elementi di un orologio a lanterna e di un orologio comtoise.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; La lancetta &egrave; stata ovviamente sostituita, in quanto risale chiaramente al XVIII e non al XVII secolo. La lancetta originale era molto pi&ugrave; spessa di quella attuale. La campana attuale &egrave; probabilmente un esemplare del XIX secolo. Il quadrante in peltro potrebbe essere autentico, ma probabilmente si tratta di un esemplare dell'inizio del XVIII secolo.&nbsp; Il frontone in peltro risale sicuramente al XVIII secolo, in quanto presenta la tipica rocaille rococ&ograve;. &Egrave; probabile che questo movimento sia stato modernizzato negli anni 1730/1740 con un nuovo quadrante, un frontone e lancette rococ&ograve;.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Le piccole viti che fissano il quadrante in peltro sono pezzi unici limati a mano e non ci sono prove di ulteriori modifiche dopo l'ammodernamento dell'inizio del XVIII secolo.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sono invece visibili modifiche al supporto superiore dell'asse del gambo, che non &egrave; originale, ma &egrave; stato sostituito da vecchi componenti provenienti da un altro orologio. L'asse del gambo e la ruota del foliot sono rimasti invariati e non sono visibili altre modifiche al treno di ingranaggi in movimento. Nel treno degli ingranaggi della suoneria sono state sostituite le alette del volano, in origine sicuramente in ferro, ora in ottone dopo la riparazione.&nbsp; Anche il martello e la molla di pressione del martello sono stati sostituiti. Se osserviamo gli assi, possiamo notare che sono conici, una caratteristica tipica dei lavori del primo Seicento. Particolarmente suggestiva &egrave; la forma conica dell'asse di battuta.Questo movimento ibrido Comtois dell'Alta Savoia &egrave; stato ovviamente realizzato dopo il 1660, quando gli orologi a lanterna erano ancora la maggioranza. Gli orologi a lanterna avevano generalmente un tempo di funzionamento di circa 30 ore e gli assi erano disposti uno dietro l'altro. Tuttavia, il creatore di questo movimento voleva costruire un orologio a lanterna con un tempo di funzionamento di 8 giorni, quindi cre&ograve; questo orologio ibrido. Ha posizionato le due serie di ruote del movimento a lanterna senza la ruota di carica - assi corti lunghi circa 47 mm - una accanto all'altra, in modo da poter inserire anche 2 pulegge di carica - assi lunghi circa 69 mm - per ospitare la corda necessaria a mantenere i pesi in caduta per 8 giorni. Le due piastre anteriori sono verticali, mentre quelle posteriori sono state inclinate all'indietro nella parte inferiore per ospitare gli alberi pi&ugrave; lunghi delle pulegge di sollevamento. Con uno spessore delle piastre di 3 mm, la profondit&agrave; di movimento in un movimento a lanterna (2 gruppi di ruote e 3 piastre) sarebbe di 103 mm; in un movimento a comtois, la profondit&agrave; di un gruppo di ruote (2 piastre) sarebbe di 75 mm. Se confrontiamo queste due dimensioni con quelle abituali degli orologi a lanterna e dei primi orologi Comtois, non c'&egrave; quasi nessuna differenza. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;La grande particolarit&agrave; di questo movimento sta nel fatto che ha piastre posteriori angolate, poich&eacute; la costruzione sarebbe stata possibile con piastre posteriori verticali e assi di 75 mm per tutte le ruote, nonch&eacute; con un sistema di intaglio delle ruote.&nbsp;Come spesso accade negli orologi a lanterna, le viti sono pochissime. Solo il disco della ruota di conteggio (chaperon) poggia su una vite di base; tutto il resto &egrave; fissato o bloccato da perni e cunei. Le viti che fissano il frontone e il quadrante sono del XVIII secolo, mentre la vite a testa tonda che sostiene la campana &egrave; del XIX secolo. Piastre della gabbia forgiate di spessore superiore a 3 mm in alcuni punti, pilastri del movimento di 10 x 10 mm, esattamente come nei primi movimenti Comtois della Haute Sa&ocirc;ne o dell'Haut-Jura.Il movimento &egrave; dotato di una staffa di sospensione; mancano i pioli distanziatori, ma sono presenti i relativi fori. Il movimento era dotato di porte; i fori corrispondenti nelle piastre della gabbia sono presenti. A destra e a sinistra del frontone c'erano originariamente dei piccoli pinnacoli, su cui erano montati dei perni/vasi. I fori nella piastra della gabbia sono ancora presenti e il foro di destra contiene ancora il pezzo filettato a cui era avvitato il pinnacolo.Di seguito sono riportate varie dimensioni e dati di questo movimento.Gabbia: 203 mm di altezza x 181 mm di larghezza x 103 mm di profondit&agrave;.Piastra superiore della gabbia: spessore da 2,7 mm a 3,1 mm Piastra inferiore della gabbia: spessore da 2,7 mm a 3,2 mm.Colonne: 10 x 10 mm (da 9,9 mm a 10,1 mm).Orologio: 300 mm di altezza x 181 mm di larghezza x 158 mm di profondit&agrave;.Quadrante in peltro: diametro esterno 168 mm, diametro interno 98 mm.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Spessore del quadrante in peltro: da 2,3 mm a 2,9 mm.Le piastre sono larghe 19,5 mm e spesse da 4,7 a 5 mm.L'ago esistente &egrave; lungo 52 mm e spesso 1,5 mm. L'ago originale dovrebbe avere uno spessore di circa 4 mm (a seconda dell'eventuale alloggiamento del quadrato dell'ago).La piastra posteriore &egrave; spessa da 1,8 mm a 2,0 mm, quella anteriore da 1,6 mm a 1,7 mm.Spessore dell'asta conica del rilascio a percussione compreso tra 6,25 mm e 7,8 mm. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Spessore dell'albero conico della ruota di sollevamento dei chiodi compreso tra 5,1 e 5,9 mm. Spessore dell'albero conico della ruota grande inferiore compreso tra 5,5 mm e 6,1 mm.Il meccanismo di battuta sul lato destro &egrave; avvolto in senso antiorario. Il meccanismo di battuta sul lato sinistro della gabbia &egrave; avvolto in senso orario. Ci&ograve; &egrave; visivamente evidente dal fatto che i due pesi sono sospesi vicino ai bordi dei lati della gabbia. Questo sistema di avvolgimento dei pesi al contrario &egrave; un'eredit&agrave; degli orologi a lanterna.Negli orologi a lanterna, le due ruote di carica sono posizionate una dietro l'altra. Tirando una corda o una catena, i pesi vengono tirati verso l'alto. Il meccanismo di marcia avanti &egrave; avvolto sul lato destro - il pignone ruota in senso antiorario - e il meccanismo di marcia indietro &egrave; avvolto sul lato sinistro - il pignone ruota in senso orario. I due pesi sono quindi sospesi al centro, a destra e a sinistra. Se i due pesi fossero sospesi su un lato, il movimento sospeso potrebbe muoversi sulla parete e i pesi potrebbero anche toccarsi.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Poich&eacute; Christian Huygens aveva inventato anche l'avvolgimento a corda/catena senza fine, negli orologi a lanterna girava solo la ruota dentata/catena di base del meccanismo di marcia, mentre la ruota dentata/catena di base del meccanismo di suoneria non poteva pi&ugrave; girare. La puleggia a cui era sospeso il peso distribuiva la pressione sia al meccanismo di marcia che a quello di suoneria e il peso era sospeso al centro del movimento.Se le due ruote di un orologio a lanterna sono affiancate in una gabbia, la ruota del meccanismo di marcia deve essere posizionata a destra della gabbia e quella del meccanismo di suoneria a sinistra della gabbia, altrimenti i due pesi si toccherebbero/impedirebbero al centro. &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Quando l'orologio Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise &egrave; stato trasformato in orologio Haut-Jura Comtoise, il sistema di carica delle ruote di base &egrave; stato modificato in modo che le due serie di ruote venissero ora caricate in senso orario, in modo che il peso di sinistra fosse sospeso a sinistra del centro della gabbia e il peso di destra sul bordo della gabbia.L'aspetto caratteristico dei pesi sospesi a destra e a sinistra dei movimenti Comtois dell'Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne mostra chiaramente la relazione con gli orologi a lanterna. &nbsp;&Egrave; certo che l'avvolgimento dei pesi di un orologio &egrave; pi&ugrave; semplice, pi&ugrave; pratico e meno pericoloso per l'utente se i due avvolgimenti hanno lo stesso senso di rotazione. Negli orologi Haut-Jura Comtoises, questa &egrave; stata la norma fin dall'inizio (con alcune eccezioni negli esempi successivi). Anche nei movimenti Haut-Jura, dove le ruote del movimento di marcia sono posizionate a destra e quelle del movimento di rintocco a sinistra, entrambe le ruote girano in senso antiorario.Le forme di transizione o intermedie tra un orologio a lanterna e un orologio Comtoise o un altro tipo di orologio devono essere estremamente rare. Si trattava spesso di pezzi unici e, dopo quasi 350 anni, &egrave; davvero miracoloso trovare un orologio ibrido di questo tipo. Tuttavia, quando si trovano orologi di questo tipo, forniscono una potente prova che i tipi di orologi che conosciamo sono il risultato di un processo di sviluppo.&nbsp;</p><br />Date: 02.04.2022 10:48]]></description>
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							<description><![CDATA[<a title="4. Schlagwerk in HAUTE-SAÔNE COMTOISE MOVEMENT" href="https://morbier-clocks.de/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/4.-Schlagwerk.jpg.php"><img src="https://morbier-clocks.de/cache/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/4.-Schlagwerk_240_thumb.jpg?cached=1781696217" alt="4. Schlagwerk" /></a><p>Si consideramos el reloj comtoise de la Haut-Jura como el producto de un proceso de desarrollo, es evidente que debi&oacute; de haber etapas intermedias en el camino desde el principio hasta el producto, es decir, desde el reloj de linterna hasta el reloj comtoise entre 1657/58 y 1700/1710, ya que probablemente nadie aceptar&aacute; que el reloj comtoise de la Haut-Jura, con su escape de verge y su largo p&eacute;ndulo, haya sido creado en un tablero de dibujo o el resultado de una conferencia de la familia Mayet. La comtoise de Haut-Jura no es en absoluto una evoluci&oacute;n de los relojes de torre, ya sean relojes de torre Mayet o relojes de torre de otros relojeros de los siglos XV, XVI o XVII.&nbsp;El reloj comtoise de Haut-Sa&ocirc;ne es una evoluci&oacute;n del reloj de linterna, que a finales del siglo XVII ya hab&iacute;a adoptado nuevas caracter&iacute;sticas procedentes de Inglaterra, como el p&eacute;ndulo, la marcha de &aacute;ncora y la soner&iacute;a de rastrillo.El reloj Comtoise de Haut-Jura es una evoluci&oacute;n del reloj Comtoise de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne, que apareci&oacute; hacia 1710 con los primeros relojes espec&iacute;ficos de esta regi&oacute;n. El reloj Haut-Jura Comtoise m&aacute;s antiguo fechado y firmado hasta la fecha data de 1709. Les presento un reloj cuyas caracter&iacute;sticas externas, como la esfera y el front&oacute;n de peltre, la aguja &uacute;nica, el soporte de suspensi&oacute;n y el espaciador inferior, la campana en el centro en la parte superior del movimiento y en una jaula de movimiento forjada con puertas de movimiento laterales, indican inmediatamente un movimiento Comtoise de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne. Sin embargo, no hay horca para suspender el p&eacute;ndulo y, por tanto, tampoco varilla pendular detr&aacute;s del movimiento. Tampoco hay una ranura en la parte inferior trasera de la jaula del movimiento a trav&eacute;s de la cual pudiera oscilar el p&eacute;ndulo. Este movimiento no tiene p&eacute;ndulo, como se ve r&aacute;pidamente. En lugar de un p&eacute;ndulo, este movimiento tiene una rueda foliot.&nbsp;Nadie esperar&iacute;a encontrar, casi 350 a&ntilde;os despu&eacute;s, un reloj que a&uacute;n se encuentre en su estado original del a&ntilde;o +- 1670. Por supuesto, este movimiento ha sufrido reparaciones y/o modificaciones, pero la sustancia b&aacute;sica muestra un movimiento h&iacute;brido con elementos de un reloj de linterna y un reloj Comtoise.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Es evidente que la aguja ha sido sustituida, ya que data claramente del siglo XVIII y no del XVII. La aguja original era mucho m&aacute;s gruesa que la actual. La campana actual es probablemente un ejemplar del siglo XIX. La esfera de peltre puede ser aut&eacute;ntica, pero probablemente se trate de un ejemplar de principios del siglo XVIII.&nbsp; El front&oacute;n de peltre data sin duda del siglo XVIII, ya que presenta la t&iacute;pica rocaille rococ&oacute;. Es probable que este movimiento fuera modernizado en los a&ntilde;os 1730/1740 con una nueva esfera, un nuevo front&oacute;n y agujas rococ&oacute;.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Los peque&ntilde;os tornillos que sujetan la esfera de peltre son piezas &uacute;nicas limadas a mano y no hay indicios de ninguna modificaci&oacute;n posterior a la modernizaci&oacute;n de principios del siglo XVIII.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Por otro lado, se aprecian modificaciones en el soporte superior del eje de la tija, ya que no es original, sino que ha sido sustituido por componentes antiguos de otro reloj. El eje de la tija y la rueda foliadora no han sufrido modificaciones y no se aprecia ninguna otra modificaci&oacute;n en el tren de engranajes. En el tren de engranajes de soner&iacute;a, se han sustituido las alas del volante, originalmente ciertamente de hierro, ahora de lat&oacute;n tras su reparaci&oacute;n.&nbsp; Tambi&eacute;n se han sustituido el martillo y el muelle de presi&oacute;n del martillo. Si nos fijamos en los ejes, podemos ver que son c&oacute;nicos, una caracter&iacute;stica t&iacute;pica de las obras de principios del siglo XVII. La forma c&oacute;nica del eje de golpeo es especialmente llamativa.Este movimiento h&iacute;brido Comtois de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne se fabric&oacute; evidentemente despu&eacute;s de 1660, cuando los relojes de linterna eran a&uacute;n mayoritarios. En general, los relojes de linterna ten&iacute;an una duraci&oacute;n de unas 30 horas y los ejes estaban dispuestos uno detr&aacute;s de otro. Sin embargo, el creador de este movimiento quiso construir un reloj de linterna con una duraci&oacute;n de 8 d&iacute;as, por lo que cre&oacute; este reloj h&iacute;brido. Coloc&oacute; los dos juegos de ruedas del movimiento de linterna sin la rueda de cuerda -ejes cortos de unos 47 mm de longitud- uno al lado del otro, para poder colocar tambi&eacute;n 2 poleas de cuerda -ejes largos de unos 69 mm de longitud- para alojar la cuerda necesaria para mantener las pesas en ca&iacute;da durante 8 d&iacute;as. Las dos placas delanteras son verticales, mientras que las traseras se han inclinado hacia atr&aacute;s en la parte inferior para alojar los ejes m&aacute;s largos de las poleas de elevaci&oacute;n. Con un grosor de placa de 3 mm, la profundidad de movimiento en un movimiento de linterna (2 juegos de ruedas y 3 placas) ser&iacute;a de 103 mm; en un movimiento de comtois, la profundidad de un juego de ruedas (2 placas) ser&iacute;a de 75 mm. Si comparamos estas dos dimensiones con las habituales de los relojes de linterna y de los primeros relojes comtois, apenas hay diferencia. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;La gran particularidad de este movimiento reside en el hecho de que tiene placas traseras acodadas, ya que la construcci&oacute;n habr&iacute;a sido posible, por supuesto, con placas traseras verticales y ejes de 75 mm para todas las ruedas, as&iacute; como con un sistema de muescas en las ruedas.&nbsp;Como suele ocurrir con los relojes de linterna, hay muy pocos tornillos. S&oacute;lo el disco de la rueda contadora (chaper&oacute;n) descansa sobre un tornillo de base; todo lo dem&aacute;s est&aacute; fijado o bloqueado por pasadores y cu&ntilde;as. Los tornillos que sujetan el front&oacute;n y la esfera son del siglo XVIII, el tornillo de cabeza redonda que sostiene la campana es del siglo XIX. Gruesas placas de jaula forjadas de m&aacute;s de 3 mm de grosor en algunas partes, pilares de movimiento de 10 x 10 mm, exactamente como se encuentran en los primeros movimientos Comtois de Haute Sa&ocirc;ne o Haut-Jura.El movimiento tiene un soporte de suspensi&oacute;n; faltan las clavijas espaciadoras, pero los orificios para ellas est&aacute;n presentes. El movimiento ten&iacute;a puertas, los orificios correspondientes en las placas de la jaula est&aacute;n presentes. A la derecha y a la izquierda del front&oacute;n hab&iacute;a originalmente peque&ntilde;os pin&aacute;culos, montados sobre pivotes/vasos. Los orificios de la placa de la jaula siguen ah&iacute;, y el orificio de la derecha todav&iacute;a contiene la pieza roscada a la que se atornillaba el pin&aacute;culo.A continuaci&oacute;n se indican varias dimensiones y datos de este movimiento.Jaula: 203 mm de alto x 181 mm de ancho x 103 mm de fondo.Placa superior de la jaula: 2,7 mm a 3,1 mm de grosor Placa inferior de la jaula: 2,7 mm a 3,2 mm de grosor.Pilares: 10 x 10 mm (9,9 mm a 10,1 mm).Reloj: 300 mm de alto x 181 mm de ancho x 158 mm de fondo.Esfera de peltre: 168 mm de di&aacute;metro exterior, 98 mm de di&aacute;metro interior.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Espesor de la esfera de peltre: de 2,3 mm a 2,9 mm.Las placas tienen una anchura de 19,5 mm y un grosor de 4,7 a 5 mm.La aguja existente mide 52 mm de largo y 1,5 mm de grosor. La aguja original deber&iacute;a haber tenido un grosor aproximado de 4 mm (dependiendo del posible alojamiento del cuadrado de la aguja).La placa trasera tiene un grosor de 1,8 mm a 2,0 mm, la placa delantera de 1,6 mm a 1,7 mm.Grosor del eje c&oacute;nico del disparador de percusi&oacute;n entre 6,25 mm y 7,8 mm. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Espesor del eje c&oacute;nico de la rueda de clavos de elevaci&oacute;n entre 5,1 mm y 5,9 mm. Espesor del eje c&oacute;nico de la rueda de fondo grande entre 5,5 mm y 6,1 mm.El mecanismo de golpeo del lado derecho se enrolla en sentido antihorario. El mecanismo de percusi&oacute;n del lado izquierdo de la jaula est&aacute; enrollado en el sentido de las agujas del reloj. Esto se aprecia visualmente por el hecho de que las dos pesas est&aacute;n suspendidas cerca de los bordes de los lados de la jaula. Este sistema de dar cuerda a las pesas en sentido inverso es una herencia de los relojes de linterna.En los relojes de linterna, las dos ruedas de cuerda est&aacute;n colocadas una detr&aacute;s de la otra. Tirando de una cuerda o cadena, las pesas se elevan. El mecanismo de avance se enrolla en el lado derecho -el pi&ntilde;&oacute;n gira en el sentido contrario a las agujas del reloj- y el mecanismo de retroceso se enrolla en el lado izquierdo -el pi&ntilde;&oacute;n gira en el sentido de las agujas del reloj-. As&iacute;, las dos pesas cuelgan en el centro, a izquierda y derecha. Si las dos pesas estuvieran suspendidas en un lado, el movimiento suspendido podr&iacute;a moverse en la pared y las pesas tambi&eacute;n podr&iacute;an tocarse.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dado que Christian Huygens tambi&eacute;n hab&iacute;a inventado la cuerda/cadena de cuerda sin fin, en los relojes de linterna s&oacute;lo giraba la rueda dentada/cadena base del mecanismo de marcha, mientras que la rueda dentada/cadena base del mecanismo de soner&iacute;a ya no pod&iacute;a girar. La polea de la que se colgaba la pesa distribu&iacute;a la presi&oacute;n tanto al mecanismo de marcha como al de soner&iacute;a, y la pesa quedaba suspendida en medio del movimiento.Si las dos ruedas de un reloj de linterna se colocan una al lado de la otra en una jaula, la rueda del mecanismo de marcha debe colocarse a la derecha de la jaula y la rueda de soner&iacute;a a la izquierda, ya que de lo contrario las dos pesas se tocar&iacute;an/impedir&iacute;an girar en el centro. &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Cuando el reloj Comtoise de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne se transform&oacute; en reloj Comtoise de Haut-Jura, el sistema de cuerda de las ruedas de base se modific&oacute; en el sentido de que los dos juegos de ruedas se enrollaban ahora en el sentido de las agujas del reloj, de modo que la pesa de la izquierda quedaba suspendida a la izquierda del centro de la jaula y la pesa de la derecha en el borde de la jaula.El aspecto caracter&iacute;stico de las pesas suspendidas a la izquierda y a la derecha de los movimientos Comtois de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne muestra claramente la relaci&oacute;n con los relojes de linterna. &nbsp;Es cierto que dar cuerda a las pesas de un reloj es m&aacute;s sencillo, m&aacute;s pr&aacute;ctico y menos peligroso para el usuario si las dos bobinas tienen el mismo sentido de rotaci&oacute;n. En los relojes Haut-Jura Comtoises, &eacute;sta ha sido la norma desde el principio (con algunas excepciones en ejemplares posteriores). Incluso en los movimientos Haut-Jura, en los que las ruedas del movimiento de marcha se colocan a la derecha y las del movimiento de soner&iacute;a a la izquierda, ambas ruedas giran en el sentido contrario a las agujas del reloj.Las formas de transici&oacute;n o intermedias entre un reloj de linterna y un reloj Comtoise u otro tipo de reloj deben ser extremadamente raras. A menudo eran piezas &uacute;nicas y, despu&eacute;s de casi 350 a&ntilde;os, es realmente milagroso encontrar un reloj h&iacute;brido de este tipo. Pero cuando se encuentran relojes de este tipo, constituyen una prueba fehaciente de que los tipos de relojes que conocemos son el resultado de un proceso de desarrollo.&nbsp;</p><br />Date: 02.04.2022 10:48]]></description>
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Gehwerk Radunrast" /></a><p>Si l'on consid&egrave;re l'horloge comtoise du Haut-Jura comme le produit d'un processus de d&eacute;veloppement, il est clair qu'il a d&ucirc; y avoir des &eacute;tapes interm&eacute;diaires sur le chemin menant du d&eacute;but au produit, c'est-&agrave;-dire de l'horloge &agrave; lanterne &agrave; l'horloge comtoise entre 1657/58 et 1700/1710, car personne n'acceptera sans doute que l'horloge comtoise du Haut-Jura avec &eacute;chappement &agrave; verge et balancier long soit une cr&eacute;ation sur une planche &agrave; dessin ou le r&eacute;sultat d'une conf&eacute;rence familiale des Mayet. La Haute-Jura comtoise n'est en aucun cas une &eacute;volution &agrave; partir d'horloges de tour, qu'il s'agisse d'horloges de tour des Mayet ou d'horloges de tour des 15e, 16e ou 17e si&egrave;cles d'autres horlogers. L'horloge comtoise haute-sa&ocirc;noise est une &eacute;volution de l'horloge &agrave; lanterne, qui avait d&eacute;j&agrave; adopt&eacute; &agrave; la fin du XVIIe si&egrave;cle les nouveaux &eacute;l&eacute;ments venus d'Angleterre, comme le pendule, la marche &agrave; l'ancre et la sonnerie &agrave; r&acirc;teau.L'horloge comtoise du Haut-Jura est une &eacute;volution de l'horloge comtoise de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne, qui s'est manifest&eacute;e vers 1710 par les premi&egrave;res horloges propres &agrave; cette r&eacute;gion. La plus ancienne horloge comtoise de type Haut-Jura dat&eacute;e et sign&eacute;e &agrave; ce jour date de 1709. Je vous pr&eacute;sente une horloge dont les caract&eacute;ristiques ext&eacute;rieures, telles que le cadran et le fronton en &eacute;tain, l'aiguille unique, l'&eacute;trier de suspension et l'entretoise inf&eacute;rieure, la cloche au centre en haut du mouvement et dans une cage de mouvement forg&eacute;e avec des portes de mouvement lat&eacute;rales, indiquent imm&eacute;diatement un mouvement Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise. Il n'y a cependant pas de potence pour suspendre le pendule, et donc pas non plus de tige de pendule derri&egrave;re le mouvement. Il n'y a pas non plus de fente &agrave; l'arri&egrave;re inf&eacute;rieur de la cage du mouvement, par laquelle le pendule pourrait osciller. Ce mouvement ne poss&egrave;de pas de pendule, cela devient vite &eacute;vident. Au lieu d'un pendule, ce mouvement poss&egrave;de en effet une roue de foliot. Personne ne s'attend &agrave; trouver, pr&egrave;s de 350 ans plus tard, une horloge qui se trouve encore dans son &eacute;tat d'origine de l'ann&eacute;e +- 1670. Bien entendu, ce mouvement a subi des r&eacute;parations et/ou des modifications, mais la substance de base montre un mouvement hybride avec des &eacute;l&eacute;ments d'horloge &agrave; lanterne et d'horloge comtoise.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; De toute &eacute;vidence, l'aiguille a &eacute;t&eacute; remplac&eacute;e, car elle ne date clairement pas du 17e si&egrave;cle, mais du 18e si&egrave;cle. L'aiguille d'origine &eacute;tait beaucoup plus &eacute;paisse que l'aiguille existante. La cloche actuelle est probablement un exemplaire du 19e si&egrave;cle. Le cadran en &eacute;tain pourrait tout &agrave; fait &ecirc;tre authentique, mais il s'agira probablement d'un exemplaire du d&eacute;but du 18e si&egrave;cle.&nbsp; Le fronton en &eacute;tain date certainement du 18e si&egrave;cle, car il pr&eacute;sente les rocailles typiques de l'&eacute;poque rococo. Il est probable que ce mouvement ait &eacute;t&eacute; modernis&eacute; dans les ann&eacute;es 1730/1740 avec un nouveau cadran, un fronton et des aiguilles de style rococo.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Les petites vis de fixation du cadran en &eacute;tain sont des pi&egrave;ces uniques lim&eacute;es &agrave; la main et rien n'indique une quelconque autre modification apr&egrave;s la modernisation du d&eacute;but du 18e si&egrave;cle.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; En revanche, des modifications sont visibles sur le support sup&eacute;rieur de l'axe de la tige, car celui-ci n'est pas d'origine, mais a &eacute;t&eacute; remplac&eacute; par d'anciens composants d'une autre horloge. L'axe de la tige lui-m&ecirc;me ainsi que la roue de foliot sont inchang&eacute;s, aucune autre modification n'est visible sur le train de roues du m&eacute;canisme de marche. Dans le train de rouage de la sonnerie, les ailes du volant ont &eacute;t&eacute; remplac&eacute;es, &agrave; l'origine certainement en fer, maintenant en laiton apr&egrave;s r&eacute;paration.&nbsp; Le marteau et le ressort de pression du marteau ont &eacute;galement &eacute;t&eacute; remplac&eacute;s. Si l'on regarde les axes, on remarque qu'ils sont coniques, un signe typique des premiers ouvrages du XVIIe si&egrave;cle. La forme conique de l'axe de d&eacute;clenchement de la sonnerie est particuli&egrave;rement frappante.Ce mouvement comtois hybride de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne a bien s&ucirc;r &eacute;t&eacute; r&eacute;alis&eacute; apr&egrave;s 1660, lorsque les horloges &agrave; lanterne &eacute;taient encore majoritaires. Les horloges &agrave; lanterne avaient g&eacute;n&eacute;ralement une dur&eacute;e de fonctionnement d'environ 30 heures et les essieux &eacute;taient dispos&eacute;s les uns derri&egrave;re les autres. Le cr&eacute;ateur de ce mouvement voulait cependant construire une horloge &agrave; lanterne d'une dur&eacute;e de fonctionnement de 8 jours et a donc cr&eacute;&eacute; cette horloge hybride. Il a plac&eacute; les deux jeux de roues du mouvement &agrave; lanterne sans la roue de remontoir - des axes courts d'environ 47 mm de long - l'un &agrave; c&ocirc;t&eacute; de l'autre, afin de pouvoir &eacute;galement monter 2 poulies de remontoir - des axes longs d'environ 69 mm - pour recevoir le cordon n&eacute;cessaire &agrave; la chute des poids pendant 8 jours. Les deux platines avant sont des platines verticales, tandis que les platines arri&egrave;re ont &eacute;t&eacute; inclin&eacute;es vers l'arri&egrave;re dans la partie inf&eacute;rieure pour accueillir les axes plus longs des poulies de levage. Avec une &eacute;paisseur de platine de 3 mm, la profondeur de mouvement dans un mouvement &agrave; lanterne ( 2 trains de roues et 3 platines ) serait de 103 mm, dans un mouvement comtois, la profondeur d'un train de roues ( 2 platines ) serait de 75 mm. Si l'on compare ces deux dimensions aux dimensions habituelles des horloges &agrave; lanterne et des premi&egrave;res horloges comtoises, on ne constate gu&egrave;re de diff&eacute;rences. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;La grande particularit&eacute; de ce mouvement r&eacute;side dans le fait qu'il poss&egrave;de des platines arri&egrave;re coud&eacute;es, car la construction aurait bien s&ucirc;r &eacute;t&eacute; possible avec des platines arri&egrave;re verticales et des axes de 75 mm pour toutes les roues ainsi qu'avec un syst&egrave;me de crantage des roues. Comme c'est souvent le cas pour les horloges &agrave; lanterne, il y a tr&egrave;s peu de vis. Seul le disque de la roue de compte ( chaperon ) repose sur une vis &agrave; embase, tout le reste est fix&eacute; ou bloqu&eacute; par des goupilles et des cales. Les vis de fixation du fronton et du cadran sont du 18e si&egrave;cle, la vis &agrave; t&ecirc;te ronde du support de la cloche est du 19e si&egrave;cle. &Eacute;paisses plaques de cage forg&eacute;es de plus de 3 mm d'&eacute;paisseur par endroits, piliers de mouvement de 10 x 10 mm, exactement comme on le retrouve dans les premiers mouvements comtois de Haute Sa&ocirc;ne ou du Haut-Jura.Le mouvement poss&egrave;de un &eacute;trier de suspension, les chevilles d'&eacute;cartement manquent, mais les trous pour celles-ci sont pr&eacute;sents. Le mouvement poss&eacute;dait des portes, les trous correspondants dans les plaques de la cage sont pr&eacute;sents. A droite et &agrave; gauche du fronton se trouvaient &agrave; l'origine de petits pinacles, des pivots/vases mont&eacute;s. Les trous dans la plaque de la cage sont pr&eacute;sents, dans le trou de droite se trouve encore la pi&egrave;ce filet&eacute;e sur laquelle le pinacle &eacute;tait viss&eacute;.Ci-dessous, diverses dimensions et donn&eacute;es de ce mouvement.Cage : 203 mm de hauteur x 181 mm de largeur x 103 mm de profondeur.Plaque sup&eacute;rieure de la cage : &eacute;paisseur de 2,7 mm &agrave; 3,1 mm Plaque inf&eacute;rieure de la cage : 2,7 mm &agrave; 3,2 mm.Piliers de 10 x 10 mm. ( 9,9 mm &agrave; 10, 1 mm ).Horloge : 300 mm de hauteur x 181 mm de largeur x 158 mm de profondeur.Cadran en &eacute;tain : 168 mm de diam&egrave;tre ext&eacute;rieur, 98 mm de diam&egrave;tre int&eacute;rieur.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &Eacute;paisseur du cadran en &eacute;tain : 2,3 mm &agrave; 2,9 mm.Les platines ont une largeur de 19,5 mm et une &eacute;paisseur de 4,7 &agrave; 5 mm.L'aiguille existante mesure 52 mm de long et 1,5 mm d'&eacute;paisseur. L'aiguille d'origine devait avoir une &eacute;paisseur d'environ 4 mm ( selon le logement possible du carr&eacute; de l'aiguille ).La plaque arri&egrave;re a une &eacute;paisseur de 1,8 mm &agrave; 2,0 mm, la plaque avant de 1,6 mm &agrave; 1,7 mm.&Eacute;paisseur de l'axe conique du d&eacute;clencheur &agrave; percussion entre 6,25 mm et 7,8 mm. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &Eacute;paisseur de l'axe conique de la roue &agrave; clous de levage entre 5,1 mm et 5,9 mm. Epaisseur de l'axe conique de la roue de grand fond entre 5,5 mm et 6,1 mm.Le m&eacute;canisme de marche sur le c&ocirc;t&eacute; droit est remont&eacute; dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d'une horloge. Le m&eacute;canisme de sonnerie du c&ocirc;t&eacute; gauche de la cage est remont&eacute; dans le sens des aiguilles d'une horloge. Visuellement, cela se voit au fait que les deux poids sont suspendus pr&egrave;s des bords des c&ocirc;t&eacute;s de la cage. Ce syst&egrave;me de remontage des poids en sens inverse est un h&eacute;ritage des horloges &agrave; lanterne.Dans les horloges &agrave; lanterne, les deux roues de remontage sont dispos&eacute;es l'une derri&egrave;re l'autre. En tirant sur une ficelle ou une cha&icirc;ne, les poids sont tir&eacute;s vers le haut. Le m&eacute;canisme de marche avant est remont&eacute; du c&ocirc;t&eacute; droit - sens de rotation du pignon dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d'une horloge - et le m&eacute;canisme de sonnerie arri&egrave;re est remont&eacute; du c&ocirc;t&eacute; gauche - sens de rotation du pignon dans le sens des aiguilles d'une horloge. Ainsi, les deux poids pendent au milieu &agrave; gauche et &agrave; droite. Si les deux poids &eacute;taient suspendus d'un c&ocirc;t&eacute;, le mouvement suspendu pourrait se d&eacute;placer sur le mur et les poids pourraient &eacute;galement se toucher.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Christian Huygens ayant &eacute;galement invent&eacute; le remontage sans fin pour cordon/cha&icirc;ne, seul le pignon de base/pignon de cha&icirc;ne du m&eacute;canisme de marche &eacute;tait alors tourn&eacute; dans les horloges &agrave; lanterne, tandis que le pignon de base/pignon de cha&icirc;ne de la sonnerie ne pouvait plus tourner. La poulie &agrave; laquelle &eacute;tait suspendu le poids r&eacute;partissait la pression &agrave; la fois sur le m&eacute;canisme de marche et sur la sonnerie, et le poids &eacute;tait suspendu au milieu du mouvement.Si l'on installe les deux roues d'une horloge &agrave; lanterne l'une &agrave; c&ocirc;t&eacute; de l'autre dans une cage, il faut placer la roue du m&eacute;canisme de marche &agrave; droite de la cage et la roue de la sonnerie &agrave; gauche de la cage, car sinon les deux poids se toucheraient/se g&ecirc;neraient au milieu. &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Lors de l'&eacute;volution de l&rsquo;horloge comtoise de la Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne en horloge comtoise du Haut-Jura, le syst&egrave;me de remontage des roues de base est modifi&eacute; en ce sens que les deux jeux de roues sont d&eacute;sormais remont&eacute;s dans le sens des aiguilles d'une horloge, de sorte que le poids de gauche est suspendu &agrave; gauche du centre de la cage et le poids de droite au bord de la cage.L'aspect caract&eacute;ristique des poids suspendus sur les c&ocirc;t&eacute;s gauche et droit des mouvements comtois de Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne montre clairement la parent&eacute; avec les horloges &agrave; lanterne. &nbsp;Il est certain que le remontage des poids d'une horloge est plus simple, plus pratique et moins dangereux pour l'utilisateur si les deux remontages ont le m&ecirc;me sens de rotation. Dans les horloges comtoises du Haut-Jura, c'est la norme depuis le d&eacute;but (&agrave; quelques exceptions pr&egrave;s d'exemplaires ult&eacute;rieurs). M&ecirc;me dans les mouvements Haut-Jura o&ugrave; les roues du mouvement de marche sont plac&eacute;es &agrave; droite et celles du mouvement de sonnerie &agrave; gauche, les deux roues sont tourn&eacute;es dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d'une horloge.Les formes transitoires ou interm&eacute;diaires d'une horloge &agrave; lanterne et d'une horloge comtoise ou d'un autre type d'horloge doivent &ecirc;tre extr&ecirc;mement rares. Il s'agissait souvent de pi&egrave;ces uniques et apr&egrave;s presque 350 ans, il est vraiment miraculeux de trouver une telle horloge hybride. Mais lorsque de telles horloges sont retrouv&eacute;es, elles prouvent avec force que les types d&rsquo;horloges que nous connaissons sont le r&eacute;sultat d'un processus de d&eacute;veloppement.&nbsp;</p><br />Date: 02.04.2022 10:48]]></description>
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							<description><![CDATA[<a title="2. rückseitig in HAUTE-SAÔNE COMTOISE MOVEMENT" href="https://morbier-clocks.de/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/2.-r-ckseitig.jpg.php"><img src="https://morbier-clocks.de/cache/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/2.-r-ckseitig_240_thumb.jpg?cached=1781698923" alt="2. rückseitig" /></a><p><strong>If you understand the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock as a product of a development process, then it becomes clear that there must have been intermediate stages on the way from the beginning to the product, i.e. from the lantern clock to the Comtoise clock in the period from 1657/58 to 1700/1710, because no one will assume that the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock with verge movement and long pendulum was a creation on the drawing board or the result of a Mayet family conference.&nbsp;<br /></strong></p>
<p><strong>The Haut-Jura Comtoise is in no way a further development of tower clocks, neither from Mayet tower clocks nor from tower clocks from the 15th, 16th or 17th centuries by other clockmakers.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise clock is a further development of the lantern clock, which had already adopted elements from England such as the pendulum, anchor gear and rack mechanism at the end of the 17th century.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Haut-Jura Comtoise clock is a further development of the Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise clock, which first appeared in the first own clocks around 1710. The oldest dated and signed Comtoise clock of the Haut-Jura type to date dates from 1709.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>I present to you a clock whose external features, such as a pewter dial and pewter fronton, one-hand, suspension bracket and lower spacers, bell in the middle of the top of the movement and in a forged movement cage with side movement doors, immediately indicate a Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise movement. However, there is no gallows as a pendulum suspension, nor is there a pendulum rod behind the movement. There is also no slot on the lower back of the movement cage plate through which the pendulum could swing. This clockwork does not have a pendulum, as this quickly becomes clear. Instead of a pendulum, this clockwork has a wheel rest ( foliot )<br /></strong></p>
<p><strong>Nobody would probably expect to find a clock that is still in its original condition from +- 1670 after almost 350 years. Of course, there have been repairs and/or changes to this movement, but the basic substance shows a hybrid movement with parts of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The hand has obviously been replaced because it clearly dates not from the 17th century, but from the 18th century. The original pointer was significantly thicker than the existing one. The current bell is probably a 19th century example. The pewter dial could well be authentic, but is probably an early 18th century example.&nbsp; The tin fronton certainly dates from the 18th century, as it wears the typical Rococo rocailles. This clockwork was probably modernized in the 1730s/1740s with a new dial, fronton and hands in the Rococo style.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The small fixing screws of the pewter dial are hand-filed individual pieces and there is nothing to indicate any further change after the modernization in the early 18th century. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Changes, however, can be seen on the upper holder of the spindle axis, as this is not original, but was replaced with old components from another clock. The spindle axis itself and the wheel alignment are unchanged; there are no other changes to the running gear wheelset. In the set of wheels of the striking mechanism, the wings of the vestibule were replaced, originally made of iron, now, after repairs, made of brass.&nbsp; The hammer and hammer pressure spring were also replaced.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If you look at the axes, you will notice that they are conical, a typical feature of early works from the 17th century. The conical shape of the axis of the striking mechanism for its triggering is particularly obvious.</strong></p>
<p><strong>This Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Hybrid Comtoise movement was of course created in the period after 1660, when lantern clocks were still predominantly being built. Lantern clocks usually had a running time of around 30 hours and the wheel sets were arranged one behind the other. However, the creator of this movement wanted to build a lantern clock with a running time of 8 days and thus created this hybrid clock. He placed the two sets of wheels of the lantern clockwork without the winding wheel - short axles of approx. 47 mm long - next to each other so that he could also have 2 winding rollers - long axles of approx. 69 mm long - to hold the necessary cord for the 8-day drop of the weights. The two front plates are vertical plates, whereas the rear plates have been angled backwards in the lower area to accommodate the longer axes of the winding rollers. With a plate thickness of 3 mm, the depth of the movement in a lantern clock movement (2 sets of wheels and 3 plates) would be 103 mm; in a Comtoise movement, the depth of a set of wheels (2 plates) would be 75 mm. If we compare these two dimensions with the usual dimensions of lantern clocks and early Comtoise clocks, there are hardly any deviations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The big special feature of this movement, in addition to the wheel rest, is that it has these rear angled plates, because the construction would of course also have been possible with rear vertical plates and 75mm axles of all wheels as well as equipped with wheel rest.&nbsp;</strong></p>
<p><strong>As is usual with lantern clocks, there are extremely few screws. Only the locking washer sits on a shoulder screw, everything else is attached or secured by pins and wedges. The fastening screws of the fronton and the dial are 18th century, the round head screw of the bell holder is 19th century. Thick forged cage plates, sometimes more than 3 mm thick, movement pillars measuring 10 x 10 mm, just like those found in the earliest Haute Sa&ocirc;ne or Haut-Jura Comtoise clockworks.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The movement has a suspension bracket, the spacer pins are missing, but the holes for them are there. The iron cage had doors and the corresponding holes in the cage plates are present. There were originally small pinacles and cones/vases mounted to the right and left of the fronton. The holes in the cage plate are there, the threaded piece onto which the pinacle was screwed is still in the right hole.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Below are various dimensions and data for this movement.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Cage:&nbsp; 203mm height x 181mm width x 103mm depth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Cage top plate: thickness 2.7 mm to 3.1 mm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Cage bottom plate: 2.7 mm to 3.2 mm</strong></p>
<p><strong>Pillar 10 x 10 mm. (9.9mm to 10.1mm)</strong></p>
<p><strong>Clock:&nbsp; &nbsp;300mm height x 181mm width x 158mm depth.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Pewter dial: 168mm outer diameter, 98mm inner diameter. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Tin dial thickness: 2.3mm to 2.9mm</strong></p>
<p><strong>Boards are 19.5 mm wide and 4.7 to 5 mm thick.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The existing hand is 52 mm long and 1.5 mm thick. The original hand was probably approx. 4 mm thick (according to the possible recording of the square hand)</strong></p>
<p><strong>The back panel is 1.8 mm to 2.0 mm thick, the front panel is 1.6 mm to 1.7 mm thick.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Thickness of the conical axis of the percussion mechanism between 6.25 mm and 7.8 mm. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Thickness of the conical axis of the peg wheel between 5.1 mm and 5.9 mm.&nbsp;<br />Thickness of the conical axle of the large floor wheel between 5.5 mm and 6.1 mm</strong></p>
<p><strong>The movement on the right side is wound counterclockwise. The striking mechanism on the left side of the cage is wound clockwise. You can see this visually because the two weights hang close to the edges of the cage sides. This counter-rotating system of winding the weights is a takeover from lantern clocks.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In the lantern clocks, the two winding wheels are arranged one behind the other. The weights are pulled upwards by pulling on cords or chains. The front going gear is wound on the right side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is counterclockwise - and the rear striking mechanism is wound on the left side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is clockwise. This means that the two weights hang in the middle on the left and right. If both weights were hanging on one side, the hanging clockwork on the wall could shift and the weights could also touch each other.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Since Christian Huygens also invented the endless cord/chain winding mechanism, only the basic wheel/sprocket of the going gear was turned in the lantern clocks, whereas the basic wheel/sprocket of the striking mechanism could no longer be rotated. The pulley on which the weight hung distributed the pressure on both the going train and the striking mechanism, and the weight also hung in the middle under the movement.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If you now install the two wheel sets of a lantern clock next to each other in a cage, you have to place the movement wheel set on the right in the cage and the striking wheel set on the left in the cage, otherwise the two weights would touch/obstruct each other in the middle.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</strong></p>
<p><strong>In the further development of the Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise clock to the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock, the winding system of the basic wheels is changed so that both sets of wheels are now wound clockwise, so that the left weight is to the left of the center of the cage and the right weight is at the edge of the cage hanging in the cage.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The striking appearance of the weights hanging on the left and right sides of the Haute-Sa&ocirc;ne Comtoise clockworks clearly shows their relationship to the lantern clocks. &nbsp;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Certainly winding the weights of a clock is easier, more practical and safer for the user if both windings rotate in the same direction. In the Haut-Jura Comtoise clocks this has been standard from the start (with extremely few exceptions in later examples). Even in those Haut-Jura works in which the gear sets of the going gear are arranged on the right and the striking gear on the left, both gear sets are turned counterclockwise.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Transitional forms or intermediate forms of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock or another type of clock are likely to be extremely rare. Many of them were unique pieces and after almost 350, it can really be described as a miracle to find such a hybrid clock. But when such clocks are found, these clocks prove emphatically that the types of clocks we know are the result of a development process.</strong></p><br />Date: 02.04.2022 10:48]]></description>
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							<title><![CDATA[If you understand the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock as a product of a development process, then it becomes clear that there must have been intermediate stages on the way from the beginning to the product, i.e. from the lantern clock to the Comtoise clock in the period from 1657/58 to 1700/1710, because no one will assume that the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock with verge movement and long pendulum was a creation on the drawing board or the result of a Mayet family conference.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise is in no way a further development of tower clocks, neither from Mayet tower clocks nor from tower clocks from the 15th, 16th or 17th centuries by other clockmakers.   The Haute-Saône Comtoise clock is a further development of the lantern clock, which had already adopted elements from England such as the pendulum, anchor gear and rack mechanism at the end of the 17th century.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise clock is a further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock, which first appeared in the first own clocks around 1710. The oldest dated and signed Comtoise clock of the Haut-Jura type to date dates from 1709.  I present to you a clock whose external features, such as a pewter dial and pewter fronton, one-hand, suspension bracket and lower spacers, bell in the middle of the top of the movement and in a forged movement cage with side movement doors, immediately indicate a Haute-Saône Comtoise movement. However, there is no gallows as a pendulum suspension, nor is there a pendulum rod behind the movement. There is also no slot on the lower back of the movement cage plate through which the pendulum could swing. This clockwork does not have a pendulum, as this quickly becomes clear. Instead of a pendulum, this clockwork has a wheel rest ( foliot )  Nobody would probably expect to find a clock that is still in its original condition from +- 1670 after almost 350 years. Of course, there have been repairs and/or changes to this movement, but the basic substance shows a hybrid movement with parts of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock.                                                                                                           The hand has obviously been replaced because it clearly dates not from the 17th century, but from the 18th century. The original pointer was significantly thicker than the existing one. The current bell is probably a 19th century example. The pewter dial could well be authentic, but is probably an early 18th century example.  The tin fronton certainly dates from the 18th century, as it wears the typical Rococo rocailles. This clockwork was probably modernized in the 1730s/1740s with a new dial, fronton and hands in the Rococo style. The small fixing screws of the pewter dial are hand-filed individual pieces and there is nothing to indicate any further change after the modernization in the early 18th century.                                                                                                 Changes, however, can be seen on the upper holder of the spindle axis, as this is not original, but was replaced with old components from another clock. The spindle axis itself and the wheel alignment are unchanged; there are no other changes to the running gear wheelset. In the set of wheels of the striking mechanism, the wings of the vestibule were replaced, originally made of iron, now, after repairs, made of brass.  The hammer and hammer pressure spring were also replaced.                                                                            If you look at the axes, you will notice that they are conical, a typical feature of early works from the 17th century. The conical shape of the axis of the striking mechanism for its triggering is particularly obvious. This Haute-Saône Hybrid Comtoise movement was of course created in the period after 1660, when lantern clocks were still predominantly being built. Lantern clocks usually had a running time of around 30 hours and the wheel sets were arranged one behind the other. However, the creator of this movement wanted to build a lantern clock with a running time of 8 days and thus created this hybrid clock. He placed the two sets of wheels of the lantern clockwork without the winding wheel - short axles of approx. 47 mm long - next to each other so that he could also have 2 winding rollers - long axles of approx. 69 mm long - to hold the necessary cord for the 8-day drop of the weights. The two front plates are vertical plates, whereas the rear plates have been angled backwards in the lower area to accommodate the longer axes of the winding rollers. With a plate thickness of 3 mm, the depth of the movement in a lantern clock movement (2 sets of wheels and 3 plates) would be 103 mm; in a Comtoise movement, the depth of a set of wheels (2 plates) would be 75 mm. If we compare these two dimensions with the usual dimensions of lantern clocks and early Comtoise clocks, there are hardly any deviations. The big special feature of this movement, in addition to the wheel rest, is that it has these rear angled plates, because the construction would of course also have been possible with rear vertical plates and 75mm axles of all wheels as well as equipped with wheel rest.  As is usual with lantern clocks, there are extremely few screws. Only the locking washer sits on a shoulder screw, everything else is attached or secured by pins and wedges. The fastening screws of the fronton and the dial are 18th century, the round head screw of the bell holder is 19th century. Thick forged cage plates, sometimes more than 3 mm thick, movement pillars measuring 10 x 10 mm, just like those found in the earliest Haute Saône or Haut-Jura Comtoise clockworks. The movement has a suspension bracket, the spacer pins are missing, but the holes for them are there. The iron cage had doors and the corresponding holes in the cage plates are present. There were originally small pinacles and cones/vases mounted to the right and left of the fronton. The holes in the cage plate are there, the threaded piece onto which the pinacle was screwed is still in the right hole. Below are various dimensions and data for this movement. Cage:  203mm height x 181mm width x 103mm depth. Cage top plate: thickness 2.7 mm to 3.1 mm                                                                                                            Cage bottom plate: 2.7 mm to 3.2 mm Pillar 10 x 10 mm. (9.9mm to 10.1mm) Clock:   300mm height x 181mm width x 158mm depth. Pewter dial: 168mm outer diameter, 98mm inner diameter.                                                                               Tin dial thickness: 2.3mm to 2.9mm Boards are 19.5 mm wide and 4.7 to 5 mm thick. The existing hand is 52 mm long and 1.5 mm thick. The original hand was probably approx. 4 mm thick (according to the possible recording of the square hand) The back panel is 1.8 mm to 2.0 mm thick, the front panel is 1.6 mm to 1.7 mm thick. Thickness of the conical axis of the percussion mechanism between 6.25 mm and 7.8 mm.                                                                                                                                           Thickness of the conical axis of the peg wheel between 5.1 mm and 5.9 mm.  Thickness of the conical axle of the large floor wheel between 5.5 mm and 6.1 mm The movement on the right side is wound counterclockwise. The striking mechanism on the left side of the cage is wound clockwise. You can see this visually because the two weights hang close to the edges of the cage sides. This counter-rotating system of winding the weights is a takeover from lantern clocks. In the lantern clocks, the two winding wheels are arranged one behind the other. The weights are pulled upwards by pulling on cords or chains. The front going gear is wound on the right side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is counterclockwise - and the rear striking mechanism is wound on the left side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is clockwise. This means that the two weights hang in the middle on the left and right. If both weights were hanging on one side, the hanging clockwork on the wall could shift and the weights could also touch each other. Since Christian Huygens also invented the endless cord/chain winding mechanism, only the basic wheel/sprocket of the going gear was turned in the lantern clocks, whereas the basic wheel/sprocket of the striking mechanism could no longer be rotated. The pulley on which the weight hung distributed the pressure on both the going train and the striking mechanism, and the weight also hung in the middle under the movement. If you now install the two wheel sets of a lantern clock next to each other in a cage, you have to place the movement wheel set on the right in the cage and the striking wheel set on the left in the cage, otherwise the two weights would touch/obstruct each other in the middle.                                                                                                      In the further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock to the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock, the winding system of the basic wheels is changed so that both sets of wheels are now wound clockwise, so that the left weight is to the left of the center of the cage and the right weight is at the edge of the cage hanging in the cage. The striking appearance of the weights hanging on the left and right sides of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clockworks clearly shows their relationship to the lantern clocks.   Certainly winding the weights of a clock is easier, more practical and safer for the user if both windings rotate in the same direction. In the Haut-Jura Comtoise clocks this has been standard from the start (with extremely few exceptions in later examples). Even in those Haut-Jura works in which the gear sets of the going gear are arranged on the right and the striking gear on the left, both gear sets are turned counterclockwise. Transitional forms or intermediate forms of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock or another type of clock are likely to be extremely rare. Many of them were unique pieces and after almost 350, it can really be described as a miracle to find such a hybrid clock. But when such clocks are found, these clocks prove emphatically that the types of clocks we know are the result of a development process. (HAUTE-SAÔNE COMTOISE MOVEMENT)]]></title>
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							<description><![CDATA[<a title="If you understand the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock as a product of a development process, then it becomes clear that there must have been intermediate stages on the way from the beginning to the product, i.e. from the lantern clock to the Comtoise clock in the period from 1657/58 to 1700/1710, because no one will assume that the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock with verge movement and long pendulum was a creation on the drawing board or the result of a Mayet family conference.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise is in no way a further development of tower clocks, neither from Mayet tower clocks nor from tower clocks from the 15th, 16th or 17th centuries by other clockmakers.   The Haute-Saône Comtoise clock is a further development of the lantern clock, which had already adopted elements from England such as the pendulum, anchor gear and rack mechanism at the end of the 17th century.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise clock is a further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock, which first appeared in the first own clocks around 1710. The oldest dated and signed Comtoise clock of the Haut-Jura type to date dates from 1709.  I present to you a clock whose external features, such as a pewter dial and pewter fronton, one-hand, suspension bracket and lower spacers, bell in the middle of the top of the movement and in a forged movement cage with side movement doors, immediately indicate a Haute-Saône Comtoise movement. However, there is no gallows as a pendulum suspension, nor is there a pendulum rod behind the movement. There is also no slot on the lower back of the movement cage plate through which the pendulum could swing. This clockwork does not have a pendulum, as this quickly becomes clear. Instead of a pendulum, this clockwork has a wheel rest ( foliot )  Nobody would probably expect to find a clock that is still in its original condition from +- 1670 after almost 350 years. Of course, there have been repairs and/or changes to this movement, but the basic substance shows a hybrid movement with parts of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock.                                                                                                           The hand has obviously been replaced because it clearly dates not from the 17th century, but from the 18th century. The original pointer was significantly thicker than the existing one. The current bell is probably a 19th century example. The pewter dial could well be authentic, but is probably an early 18th century example.  The tin fronton certainly dates from the 18th century, as it wears the typical Rococo rocailles. This clockwork was probably modernized in the 1730s/1740s with a new dial, fronton and hands in the Rococo style. The small fixing screws of the pewter dial are hand-filed individual pieces and there is nothing to indicate any further change after the modernization in the early 18th century.                                                                                                 Changes, however, can be seen on the upper holder of the spindle axis, as this is not original, but was replaced with old components from another clock. The spindle axis itself and the wheel alignment are unchanged; there are no other changes to the running gear wheelset. In the set of wheels of the striking mechanism, the wings of the vestibule were replaced, originally made of iron, now, after repairs, made of brass.  The hammer and hammer pressure spring were also replaced.                                                                            If you look at the axes, you will notice that they are conical, a typical feature of early works from the 17th century. The conical shape of the axis of the striking mechanism for its triggering is particularly obvious. This Haute-Saône Hybrid Comtoise movement was of course created in the period after 1660, when lantern clocks were still predominantly being built. Lantern clocks usually had a running time of around 30 hours and the wheel sets were arranged one behind the other. However, the creator of this movement wanted to build a lantern clock with a running time of 8 days and thus created this hybrid clock. He placed the two sets of wheels of the lantern clockwork without the winding wheel - short axles of approx. 47 mm long - next to each other so that he could also have 2 winding rollers - long axles of approx. 69 mm long - to hold the necessary cord for the 8-day drop of the weights. The two front plates are vertical plates, whereas the rear plates have been angled backwards in the lower area to accommodate the longer axes of the winding rollers. With a plate thickness of 3 mm, the depth of the movement in a lantern clock movement (2 sets of wheels and 3 plates) would be 103 mm; in a Comtoise movement, the depth of a set of wheels (2 plates) would be 75 mm. If we compare these two dimensions with the usual dimensions of lantern clocks and early Comtoise clocks, there are hardly any deviations. The big special feature of this movement, in addition to the wheel rest, is that it has these rear angled plates, because the construction would of course also have been possible with rear vertical plates and 75mm axles of all wheels as well as equipped with wheel rest.  As is usual with lantern clocks, there are extremely few screws. Only the locking washer sits on a shoulder screw, everything else is attached or secured by pins and wedges. The fastening screws of the fronton and the dial are 18th century, the round head screw of the bell holder is 19th century. Thick forged cage plates, sometimes more than 3 mm thick, movement pillars measuring 10 x 10 mm, just like those found in the earliest Haute Saône or Haut-Jura Comtoise clockworks. The movement has a suspension bracket, the spacer pins are missing, but the holes for them are there. The iron cage had doors and the corresponding holes in the cage plates are present. There were originally small pinacles and cones/vases mounted to the right and left of the fronton. The holes in the cage plate are there, the threaded piece onto which the pinacle was screwed is still in the right hole. Below are various dimensions and data for this movement. Cage:  203mm height x 181mm width x 103mm depth. Cage top plate: thickness 2.7 mm to 3.1 mm                                                                                                            Cage bottom plate: 2.7 mm to 3.2 mm Pillar 10 x 10 mm. (9.9mm to 10.1mm) Clock:   300mm height x 181mm width x 158mm depth. Pewter dial: 168mm outer diameter, 98mm inner diameter.                                                                               Tin dial thickness: 2.3mm to 2.9mm Boards are 19.5 mm wide and 4.7 to 5 mm thick. The existing hand is 52 mm long and 1.5 mm thick. The original hand was probably approx. 4 mm thick (according to the possible recording of the square hand) The back panel is 1.8 mm to 2.0 mm thick, the front panel is 1.6 mm to 1.7 mm thick. Thickness of the conical axis of the percussion mechanism between 6.25 mm and 7.8 mm.                                                                                                                                           Thickness of the conical axis of the peg wheel between 5.1 mm and 5.9 mm.  Thickness of the conical axle of the large floor wheel between 5.5 mm and 6.1 mm The movement on the right side is wound counterclockwise. The striking mechanism on the left side of the cage is wound clockwise. You can see this visually because the two weights hang close to the edges of the cage sides. This counter-rotating system of winding the weights is a takeover from lantern clocks. In the lantern clocks, the two winding wheels are arranged one behind the other. The weights are pulled upwards by pulling on cords or chains. The front going gear is wound on the right side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is counterclockwise - and the rear striking mechanism is wound on the left side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is clockwise. This means that the two weights hang in the middle on the left and right. If both weights were hanging on one side, the hanging clockwork on the wall could shift and the weights could also touch each other. Since Christian Huygens also invented the endless cord/chain winding mechanism, only the basic wheel/sprocket of the going gear was turned in the lantern clocks, whereas the basic wheel/sprocket of the striking mechanism could no longer be rotated. The pulley on which the weight hung distributed the pressure on both the going train and the striking mechanism, and the weight also hung in the middle under the movement. If you now install the two wheel sets of a lantern clock next to each other in a cage, you have to place the movement wheel set on the right in the cage and the striking wheel set on the left in the cage, otherwise the two weights would touch/obstruct each other in the middle.                                                                                                      In the further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock to the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock, the winding system of the basic wheels is changed so that both sets of wheels are now wound clockwise, so that the left weight is to the left of the center of the cage and the right weight is at the edge of the cage hanging in the cage. The striking appearance of the weights hanging on the left and right sides of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clockworks clearly shows their relationship to the lantern clocks.   Certainly winding the weights of a clock is easier, more practical and safer for the user if both windings rotate in the same direction. In the Haut-Jura Comtoise clocks this has been standard from the start (with extremely few exceptions in later examples). Even in those Haut-Jura works in which the gear sets of the going gear are arranged on the right and the striking gear on the left, both gear sets are turned counterclockwise. Transitional forms or intermediate forms of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock or another type of clock are likely to be extremely rare. Many of them were unique pieces and after almost 350, it can really be described as a miracle to find such a hybrid clock. But when such clocks are found, these clocks prove emphatically that the types of clocks we know are the result of a development process. in HAUTE-SAÔNE COMTOISE MOVEMENT" href="https://morbier-clocks.de/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/1.-frontal.jpg.php"><img src="https://morbier-clocks.de/cache/comtoise-literatur/URSPRUNG/HAUTE-SA-NE-COMTOISE-UHRWERK/1.-frontal_240_thumb.jpg?cached=1781698345" alt="If you understand the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock as a product of a development process, then it becomes clear that there must have been intermediate stages on the way from the beginning to the product, i.e. from the lantern clock to the Comtoise clock in the period from 1657/58 to 1700/1710, because no one will assume that the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock with verge movement and long pendulum was a creation on the drawing board or the result of a Mayet family conference.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise is in no way a further development of tower clocks, neither from Mayet tower clocks nor from tower clocks from the 15th, 16th or 17th centuries by other clockmakers.   The Haute-Saône Comtoise clock is a further development of the lantern clock, which had already adopted elements from England such as the pendulum, anchor gear and rack mechanism at the end of the 17th century.   The Haut-Jura Comtoise clock is a further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock, which first appeared in the first own clocks around 1710. The oldest dated and signed Comtoise clock of the Haut-Jura type to date dates from 1709.  I present to you a clock whose external features, such as a pewter dial and pewter fronton, one-hand, suspension bracket and lower spacers, bell in the middle of the top of the movement and in a forged movement cage with side movement doors, immediately indicate a Haute-Saône Comtoise movement. However, there is no gallows as a pendulum suspension, nor is there a pendulum rod behind the movement. There is also no slot on the lower back of the movement cage plate through which the pendulum could swing. This clockwork does not have a pendulum, as this quickly becomes clear. Instead of a pendulum, this clockwork has a wheel rest ( foliot )  Nobody would probably expect to find a clock that is still in its original condition from +- 1670 after almost 350 years. Of course, there have been repairs and/or changes to this movement, but the basic substance shows a hybrid movement with parts of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock.                                                                                                           The hand has obviously been replaced because it clearly dates not from the 17th century, but from the 18th century. The original pointer was significantly thicker than the existing one. The current bell is probably a 19th century example. The pewter dial could well be authentic, but is probably an early 18th century example.  The tin fronton certainly dates from the 18th century, as it wears the typical Rococo rocailles. This clockwork was probably modernized in the 1730s/1740s with a new dial, fronton and hands in the Rococo style. The small fixing screws of the pewter dial are hand-filed individual pieces and there is nothing to indicate any further change after the modernization in the early 18th century.                                                                                                 Changes, however, can be seen on the upper holder of the spindle axis, as this is not original, but was replaced with old components from another clock. The spindle axis itself and the wheel alignment are unchanged; there are no other changes to the running gear wheelset. In the set of wheels of the striking mechanism, the wings of the vestibule were replaced, originally made of iron, now, after repairs, made of brass.  The hammer and hammer pressure spring were also replaced.                                                                            If you look at the axes, you will notice that they are conical, a typical feature of early works from the 17th century. The conical shape of the axis of the striking mechanism for its triggering is particularly obvious. This Haute-Saône Hybrid Comtoise movement was of course created in the period after 1660, when lantern clocks were still predominantly being built. Lantern clocks usually had a running time of around 30 hours and the wheel sets were arranged one behind the other. However, the creator of this movement wanted to build a lantern clock with a running time of 8 days and thus created this hybrid clock. He placed the two sets of wheels of the lantern clockwork without the winding wheel - short axles of approx. 47 mm long - next to each other so that he could also have 2 winding rollers - long axles of approx. 69 mm long - to hold the necessary cord for the 8-day drop of the weights. The two front plates are vertical plates, whereas the rear plates have been angled backwards in the lower area to accommodate the longer axes of the winding rollers. With a plate thickness of 3 mm, the depth of the movement in a lantern clock movement (2 sets of wheels and 3 plates) would be 103 mm; in a Comtoise movement, the depth of a set of wheels (2 plates) would be 75 mm. If we compare these two dimensions with the usual dimensions of lantern clocks and early Comtoise clocks, there are hardly any deviations. The big special feature of this movement, in addition to the wheel rest, is that it has these rear angled plates, because the construction would of course also have been possible with rear vertical plates and 75mm axles of all wheels as well as equipped with wheel rest.  As is usual with lantern clocks, there are extremely few screws. Only the locking washer sits on a shoulder screw, everything else is attached or secured by pins and wedges. The fastening screws of the fronton and the dial are 18th century, the round head screw of the bell holder is 19th century. Thick forged cage plates, sometimes more than 3 mm thick, movement pillars measuring 10 x 10 mm, just like those found in the earliest Haute Saône or Haut-Jura Comtoise clockworks. The movement has a suspension bracket, the spacer pins are missing, but the holes for them are there. The iron cage had doors and the corresponding holes in the cage plates are present. There were originally small pinacles and cones/vases mounted to the right and left of the fronton. The holes in the cage plate are there, the threaded piece onto which the pinacle was screwed is still in the right hole. Below are various dimensions and data for this movement. Cage:  203mm height x 181mm width x 103mm depth. Cage top plate: thickness 2.7 mm to 3.1 mm                                                                                                            Cage bottom plate: 2.7 mm to 3.2 mm Pillar 10 x 10 mm. (9.9mm to 10.1mm) Clock:   300mm height x 181mm width x 158mm depth. Pewter dial: 168mm outer diameter, 98mm inner diameter.                                                                               Tin dial thickness: 2.3mm to 2.9mm Boards are 19.5 mm wide and 4.7 to 5 mm thick. The existing hand is 52 mm long and 1.5 mm thick. The original hand was probably approx. 4 mm thick (according to the possible recording of the square hand) The back panel is 1.8 mm to 2.0 mm thick, the front panel is 1.6 mm to 1.7 mm thick. Thickness of the conical axis of the percussion mechanism between 6.25 mm and 7.8 mm.                                                                                                                                           Thickness of the conical axis of the peg wheel between 5.1 mm and 5.9 mm.  Thickness of the conical axle of the large floor wheel between 5.5 mm and 6.1 mm The movement on the right side is wound counterclockwise. The striking mechanism on the left side of the cage is wound clockwise. You can see this visually because the two weights hang close to the edges of the cage sides. This counter-rotating system of winding the weights is a takeover from lantern clocks. In the lantern clocks, the two winding wheels are arranged one behind the other. The weights are pulled upwards by pulling on cords or chains. The front going gear is wound on the right side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is counterclockwise - and the rear striking mechanism is wound on the left side - direction of rotation of the sprocket is clockwise. This means that the two weights hang in the middle on the left and right. If both weights were hanging on one side, the hanging clockwork on the wall could shift and the weights could also touch each other. Since Christian Huygens also invented the endless cord/chain winding mechanism, only the basic wheel/sprocket of the going gear was turned in the lantern clocks, whereas the basic wheel/sprocket of the striking mechanism could no longer be rotated. The pulley on which the weight hung distributed the pressure on both the going train and the striking mechanism, and the weight also hung in the middle under the movement. If you now install the two wheel sets of a lantern clock next to each other in a cage, you have to place the movement wheel set on the right in the cage and the striking wheel set on the left in the cage, otherwise the two weights would touch/obstruct each other in the middle.                                                                                                      In the further development of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clock to the Haut-Jura Comtoise clock, the winding system of the basic wheels is changed so that both sets of wheels are now wound clockwise, so that the left weight is to the left of the center of the cage and the right weight is at the edge of the cage hanging in the cage. The striking appearance of the weights hanging on the left and right sides of the Haute-Saône Comtoise clockworks clearly shows their relationship to the lantern clocks.   Certainly winding the weights of a clock is easier, more practical and safer for the user if both windings rotate in the same direction. In the Haut-Jura Comtoise clocks this has been standard from the start (with extremely few exceptions in later examples). Even in those Haut-Jura works in which the gear sets of the going gear are arranged on the right and the striking gear on the left, both gear sets are turned counterclockwise. Transitional forms or intermediate forms of a lantern clock and a Comtoise clock or another type of clock are likely to be extremely rare. Many of them were unique pieces and after almost 350, it can really be described as a miracle to find such a hybrid clock. But when such clocks are found, these clocks prove emphatically that the types of clocks we know are the result of a development process." /></a><p><strong>Comtoise </strong><strong>钟表的起源。</strong></p>
<p><br />如果将上侏罗 Comtoise 时钟理解为一个发展过程的产物，那么很明显，在从开始到产品的过程中，即从 1657/58 年到 1700/1710 年期间，从灯笼钟到 Comtoise 时钟，肯定存在中间阶段，因为没有人会认为带有游标擒纵机构和长摆锤的上侏罗 Comtoise 时钟是在画板上的创造，或是马耶家族会议的结果。<br />上侏罗 Comtoise 绝对不是塔钟的进一步发展，既不是从马耶塔钟发展而来，也不是从 15、16 或 17 世纪其他钟表制造商的塔钟发展而来。</p>
<p><br />上索恩 Comtoise 时钟是灯笼钟的进一步发展，灯笼钟在 17 世纪末已经采用了来自英国的新元素，如钟摆、锚式擒纵机构和齿条式报时装置。</p>
<p><br />上侏罗孔托伊斯钟是上索讷孔托伊斯钟的进一步发展，它在 1710 年左右出现了自己的第一批钟表。上侏罗Comtoise钟最古老的有日期和签名的钟是1709年制造的。 我向您介绍的这款钟的外部特征，如锡制表盘和锡制正面、单指针、悬挂支架和下垫片、机芯顶部中央的铃铛以及带有侧机芯门的锻造机芯框架，都立即表明它采用的是上索讷Comtoise机芯。然而，机芯后面没有用于悬挂摆锤的绞架，因此也没有摆杆。机芯笼板背面下方也没有可供摆锤摆动的槽口。很快就可以看出，这款机芯没有摆杆。这枚机芯没有摆锤，而是一个轮式制动装置。</p>
<p><br />大概没有人会期望在近 350 年后还能找到一个 1670 年+-的钟表，它仍然保持着原来的状态。当然，这个机芯也经过了维修和/或改动，但其基本结构显示了一个混合了灯笼钟和 Comtoise 钟的机芯。<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>指针显然是更换过的，因为它显然不是 17 世纪的，而是 18 世纪的。原来的指针比现在的指针粗得多。现在的钟可能是 19 世纪的作品。锡制表盘很可能是真品，但很可能是 18 世纪早期的产品。 锡制的表头可以肯定是 18 世纪的作品，因为它具有典型的洛可可式罗凯尔图案。这款机芯很可能在 1730/1740 年间进行了现代化改装，配备了洛可可风格的新表盘、前盖和指针。<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>紫铜表盘上的小紧固螺钉都是手工打磨的单件，没有任何迹象表明在 18 世纪早期的现代化改造之后有任何进一步的改动。</p>
<p><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>不过，可以看出游丝擒纵机构上部的固定器有所改动，因为它不是原装的，而是用其他钟表的旧部件替换的。边缘擒纵机构本身和齿轮制动装置没有变化，走时齿轮组也没有其他变化。在报时装置的轮组中，挡风玻璃的两翼已被更换；原来肯定是铁制的，现在经过修理后变成了黄铜。 锤子和锤子压力弹簧也已更换。如果您观察一下轮轴，就会发现它们是锥形的，这是 17 世纪早期机芯的典型特征。报时装置轴的锥形尤其引人注目。</p>
<p>当然，这款上索讷混合 Comtoise 机芯是在 1660 年之后制造的，当时灯笼钟仍是主要的制造工具。灯笼钟的运行时间通常为 30 小时左右，轮组也是一个接一个地排列。然而，这款机芯的创造者却希望制造一款走时 8 天的灯笼钟，因此创造了这款混合钟。他将灯笼钟机芯的两个不带发条轮的轮组--长度约为 47 毫米的短轴--放在一起，以便同时安装两个发条滚轮--长度约为 69 毫米的长轴--来固定 8 天砝码下落所需的绳子。两块前板为垂直板，而后板的下部向后倾斜，以容纳较长的升降滑轮轴。由于夹板厚度为 3 毫米，灯笼钟机芯（2 个轮组和 3 个夹板）的机芯深度为 103 毫米；在 Comtoise 机芯中，一个轮组（2 个夹板）的深度为 75 毫米。如果我们将这两个尺寸与灯笼钟和早期 Comtoise 时钟的通常尺寸进行比较，几乎没有任何偏差。</p>
<p><br />这款机芯的特别之处除了轮轴棘爪之外，还在于它具有这些后斜板，因为这种结构当然也可以采用后垂直板、所有轮轴的 75 毫米轮轴以及轮轴棘爪。</p>
<p><br />与灯笼钟通常的做法一样，螺丝极少。只有锁盘安装在肩部螺钉上，其他部件都是用销钉和楔子固定或固定的。表头和表盘的固定螺丝是十八世纪的，钟座的圆头螺丝是十九世纪的。厚锻造笼板，有些厚度超过 3 毫米，机芯支柱为 10 x 10 毫米，与最早的 Haute Sa&ocirc;ne 或 Haut-Jura Comtoise 机芯相同。<br />机芯上有一个悬挂支架，间隔轴缺失，但有孔。机芯有门，笼板上有相应的孔。机芯前端的左右两侧原本安装有小圆锥/花瓶。笼板上的孔依然存在，右侧孔中还保留着拧上小柱子的螺纹件。<br />以下是该机芯的各种尺寸和数据。</p>
<p><br />框架：高 203 毫米 x 宽 181 毫米 x 深 103 毫米。<br />保持架顶板：厚度 2.7 毫米至 3.1 毫米 保持架底板：2.7 毫米至 3.2 毫米<br />支柱 10 x 10 毫米。( 9.9 毫米至 10.1 毫米 )<br />时钟：高 300 毫米 x 宽 181 毫米 x 深 158 毫米。<br />锡表盘：外径 168 毫米，内径 98 毫米。<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>锡表盘厚度：2.3 毫米至 2.9 毫米<br />表盘宽 19.5 毫米，厚 4.7 至 5 毫米。<br />现有指针长 52 毫米，厚 1.5 毫米。原指针可能厚约 4 毫米（根据指针方形的可能位置）。<br />后机芯板厚 1.8 至 2.0 毫米，前机芯板厚 1.6 至 1.7 毫米。<br />敲击机构的锥轴厚度在 6.25 毫米至 7.8 毫米之间。<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>起钉轮锥形轴的厚度在 5.1 毫米至 5.9 毫米之间。<br />大地板轮锥形轴的厚度在 5.5 毫米和 6.1 毫米之间。<br />右侧的走行轮为逆时针绕线。保持架左侧的打火机组是顺时针绕线的。这一点可以从两个砝码紧贴保持架两侧边缘的事实中直观地看出。这种逆时针上发条系统是灯笼钟的改良。</p>
<p><br />在灯笼钟中，两个发条轮一前一后排列。砝码通过拉绳或链条向上拉动。前发条组绕在右侧，即链轮的逆时针旋转方向；后发条组绕在左侧，即链轮的顺时针旋转方向。这意味着两个砝码分别悬挂在左右两侧的中央位置。如果两个砝码都悬挂在一侧，悬挂运动就会在墙上移动，砝码就会相互接触。<br />由于克里斯蒂安-惠更斯（Christian Huygens）还发明了用于帘子线/链条的无尽缠绕装置，因此在灯笼钟中只需转动走线轮/链条轮，而打簧装置的走线轮/链条轮则无法转动。悬挂砝码的滑轮可以分散走时轮和打簧轮的压力，砝码也悬挂在机芯下方的中心位置。</p>
<p><br />如果现在将灯笼钟的两个轮组并排安装在一个笼子里，就必须将走时轮组放在笼子的右侧，而打簧轮组放在笼子的左侧，否则两个砝码就会在中间相互接触/干扰。</p>
<p><br />在上索恩 Comtoise 腕表进一步发展为上汝拉 Comtoise 腕表的过程中，基础轮的上链系统发生了变化，现在两个轮组均按顺时针方向上链，因此左侧砝码悬挂在框架中心的左侧，而右侧砝码则悬挂在框架的边缘。</p>
<p><br />上索恩 Comtoise 机芯左右两侧悬挂的砝码的醒目外观清楚地表明了它们与灯笼钟的关系。<br />如果两个发条的旋转方向相同，给钟表的砝码上发条当然会更容易、更实用，而且对使用者来说危险性也更小。在 Haut-Jura Comtoise 腕表中，这从一开始就是标准配置（后来的表款中只有极少数例外）。即使在走时齿轮组位于右侧、报时齿轮组位于左侧的 Haut-Jura 机芯中，两个齿轮组都是逆时针上链。</p>
<p><br />灯笼钟和 Comtoise 钟或其他类型钟表的过渡形式或中间形式可能极为罕见。在许多情况下，它们都是独一无二的作品，而在近 350 年后，能找到这样的混合钟确实是一个奇迹。然而，一旦发现了这样的钟表，它们就有力地证明了我们所知道的钟表类型是一个发展过程的结果。</p><br />Date: 02.04.2022 10:48]]></description>
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